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Cover Story / Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
« on: June 15, 2018, 08:23:53 PM »
Updated my first post to include information about the Atari VCS Tribute console which is simply the Atari VCS with wood panel on front and lacking the certificate of authenticity.

Cover Story / Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
« on: June 08, 2018, 09:47:05 AM »

First off... Ya might want to get your Caps lock key checked, you may have broken this key during your fanatical typing. I watched the video you posted on the website, and honestly this guy is probably blowing a lot of smoke. There is a few key issues with the sources the guy has mentioned.

Issue 1: The console is complete scam according to your source... This is a complete farce from a guy who is simply aiming at getting money out of idiots watching his YouTube channel because YouTube pays him after so many views. In reality Atari has stated all along that the console would be released regardless of any Crowdfunding results. This is critical since it means this company is actively paying for all of the Research and Development directly first.

Issue 2: Atari has not released any footage of actual games Running on the Atari VCS... You seem to fail to realize that Atari is still a major Video game publisher. The source you chose on YouTube has also failed to take this into account, and clearly needs to take a few minutes to actually look at the list of Video Game Intellect Property (IP) that is owned by Atari, Inc ( aka Atari, SA ).

Issue 3: The Atari VCS Hardware is a fake... You need to look at the hardware companies that Atari chose to partner with to create the actual gaming Device. All of these companies have some form of experience in creating Video game hardware.

  • Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (aka AMD) -  This company is responsible for both the Processor and Video card found in the current video game consoles ( see Playstation 4, and Xbox One ).
  • Flex - This company was originally called Flextronics, and this company has years of experience in Designing and manufacturing electronics. Flex also has years of experience in manufacturing video game consoles, and is responsible for Manufacturing the Microsoft Xbox, and one of the companies responsible for Manufacturing the Microsoft Xbox, Microsoft Xbox 360, and Microsoft Xbox One.
  • Power A - I believe this is a brand of Bensussen Deutsch & Associates, LLC. There is not a lot of information regarding this company, but I do know that this company started making Video game accessories around 2009, and actually releasing controllers for video game systems in 2010. Also, I figure your probably eyeing the branded Nintendo Switch controllers produced by this company.

Issue 4: Tempest 4000 (Link to game's website) is not a title for the Atari VCS. You really need to read the footer of the web page for The Tempest 4000 game. The web page clearly states that Atari, Inc owns the Trademark, and is the publisher of this game. The fact that Atari is both the publisher, and owner of the Copyright means that they do not haft to use Llamasoft, LTD to develop the Atari VCS port of this game. Most likely the contracts between Llamasoft, LTD. and Atari, Inc include clauses where the original development files ( This includes source code, sound files, and graphics files to make the game ) are in possession of Atari, Inc. With these files Atari, Inc is able to hire another developer to handle the porting of the game.

Update on Issue 4: It turns out that Atari was planning on having Llamasoft handle porting Tempest 4000 to the Atari VCS but happened to fail to actually coordinatewith the original Developer. This is what lead to the denial made on May 21st, 2018 (link to Llamasoft's forum). The latest update was Yesterday ( June 8th, 2018) when the developer of Tempest 4000 created a post confirming the Atari VCS port of Tempest 4000 ( link to post) will be handled by Llamasoft. Also, The developer says the port will be done properly (link to post) since there is plenty of time.

June 8, 2018 - Fix typos.
June 9, 2018 - Major update on Tempest 4000. It turns out that Llamasoft is making the Atari VCS port of Tempest 4000.

Cover Story / Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
« on: June 06, 2018, 09:40:25 AM »
A minor update on specifications. The actual processor used is now in place, and it's a reasonably good processor.

The Gaming Lounge / Re: Console News: Atari VCS announced
« on: June 01, 2018, 10:32:10 AM »
I'd consider getting it if it was no more than $150 and had EVERY Atari game EVER on it!

A few more of the details are now finalized along with the start of the Preorders ( see my news post here)...

  • The console will cost between $199 - $399 depending on configuration. This means it's clearly out of your price range.
  • This console is a modern console by the actual released Technical Specifications. The system by all means is equivalent to a mid range gaming pc, and with careful work by developers this can be pushed to higher quality than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.
  • The console will include a lot of the games found in the Atari Vault ( see: ). This collection covers most of the 136 Atari 2600 games published by Atari.
  • This console will easily run third party games/software. The biggest thing is a few extra steps involved in installing a desktop Linux distribution on the system.
  • The Controllers advertise support for PC/Android using Bluetooth wireless, and the included USB cable.

Cover Story / Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
« on: May 31, 2018, 02:18:12 AM »
I'm extremely interested in this project, but unfortunately, I won't be able to pre-order. I just threw down most of the spare money I had on an electric longboard for transportation reasons. :/

I love how high the money raised is, already, though. ;D

Yea, and The Atari VCS crowdfunding campaign accomplished an impressive feat... Crashing the Indiegogo website.

Cover Story / Atari VCS up for Preorder.
« on: May 30, 2018, 11:18:54 AM »
The Atari VCS console is up for preorder now. The new information on this is as follows...

Preorder Time frame: Today, May 30th, 2018 to June 30th 2018 (estimated, all the page says is a month is left.).

Pre-order Options:
  • Atari VCS Onyx Console - This is the main console only. Controllers sold separately
  • Atari VCS Onyx console w/ classic joystick and modern controller
  • Atari VCS Tribute - This is simply the console Only, and controllers will be sold separately.
  • Atari VCS Tribute w/ classic and Modern Controllers.
  • Atari Classic Joystick
  • Atari Modern Controller
  • Atari Classic Joystick and modern controller
  • The Following are no longer available:
    • Atari VCS Onyx console w/ classic joystick
    • Atari VCS Collectors Edition console w/ classic joystick - this is a preorder exclusive.
    • Atari VCS Collectors Edition console w/ classic joystick and modern controller - this is a preorder exclusive.

New Hardware Details: (For full list of information see the Indiegogo campaign)
  • Atari Classic Controller
    • Bluetooth connectivity
    • USB Type-C Plug - This is a great connector I wish the Steam controller had. This is reversible.
    • Built-in rechargeable battery
    • PC And Android compatible
  • Atari Modern Controller
    • Bluetooth connectivity
    • USB Type-C Plug - This is a great connector I wish the Steam controller had. This is reversible.
    • Built-in rechargeable battery
    • PC And Android compatible
  • Atari VCS Console - These Features are common to both the Onyx and collectors edition of the console.
    • CPU - AMD A10-9630P (  see: Wikipedia under Bristol Ridge.)
    • Graphics - Radeon R5 ( Third Generation Graphics Core Next (GCN))
    • Ram - 4GB DDR4 memory
    • Storage: 32GB eMMC - This means internal storage is not upgrade-able, but the console fully supports both microSD Cards and external hard drives.
    • Hardware Ports: HDMI 2.0, 4x USB 3.0
    • Cross-game Chat - Built in support for Skype, Discord, etc.
    • Keyboard and mouse are fully supported
    • built-in Screen casting functions

Note 1: The hardware specifications are subject to change. I believe most likely the changes will be mainly improvements which will increase performance.

Note 2: If you want to compare this console to the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, It is worth noting that the Atari VCS currently uses third Generation graphics while the other consoles are on second generation graphics.

Edits: June 6, 2018 - Updated Console specifications in regards to Processor and graphics.
June 12, 2018 - The Wood editions of the Atari VCS are no longer available. These ended on June 11th, 2018.
June 15, 2018 - A new release of the Wood edition of the Atari  VCS is now up. It appears the Collectors edition simply had some minor additions like a certificate of authenticity.

Cover Story / Re: Atari VCS preorder Date Announced
« on: May 29, 2018, 11:08:57 PM »
Ripoff :)
Don't be surprised when it quickly gets abandoned due to poor sales!

Even if the console gets abandoned, there is still a lot of hope for the console since the main operating system is linux. This means that the core hardware of the console can be easily adapted to run other software while retaining nearly all the hardware features ( Granted, some software features will be lost until implemented )

Just a small update, I added the start time of the actual preorders to the main post. The preorders are scheduled to start a 9AM Eastern, 6AM  Pacific Time on May 30th, 2018.

Cool, it starts tomorrow. :)

They'll face an uphill battle especially with such a long time before they start shipping it, but I'm hopeful for them. Open systems can bring about change if they're done right (even if the system itself fails it can be learned from). We won't know for sure how it'll turn out until it finally starts shipping, but I'm hoping for any kind of shakeup in the console world. That and I want to see Atari make a comeback.

I plan on making a follow up post once more details are known, and The console may ship earlier... I just saw the initial estimates as 2019.

Cover Story / Re: Atari VCS preorder Date Announced
« on: May 29, 2018, 08:00:46 PM »
Just a small update, I added the start time of the actual preorders to the main post. The preorders are scheduled to start a 9AM Eastern, 6AM  Pacific Time on May 30th, 2018.

Discussion / Re: New theme suggestions?
« on: May 01, 2018, 11:51:45 PM »
Yeah, I agree. I just gotta decide how much is too much for a mobile version to display. :/

That's tricky. I personally have a cell phone with a resolution of 1440 by 2560 pixels.

Cover Story / Atari VCS preorder Date Announced
« on: May 01, 2018, 11:46:49 PM »
In breaking news, the Atari VCS console has some hard dates set that are of interest...

  • May 24th, 2018 - This is the day that Atari will stop accepting new emails in the "Insider" email alerts program. I recommend signing up for this since there will be added specials included in this email in regards to the Atari VCS console.
  • May 30th, 2018 - The pre-orders for the Atari VCS console will start at this date. The pre-order pricing starts at $199 for the Onyx edition of the console, and the limited edition wood grain model will also be available at this time. Also, on this date, the final product specifications will be listed.
    Update: The actual start time for Preorders is at 6AM Pacific Time, 9 AM Eastern Time on May 30th, 2018.
  • Spring 2019 - Atari VCS consoles will start shipping. My guess is that the company is expecting large orders.

On other notes, Some of the final features are mentioned in the press releases which are as follows...
  • Radeon Graphics included that support 4K resolution, HDR and 60 FPS.
  • Onboard and expandable storage options - I'm guessing the internal storage may be upgradeable.
  • Dual band Wifi - This does not say specifics, but I believe the ultimate result is this will support 802.11n in 2.4ghz and 5ghz  frequencies.
  • Bluetooth 5.0 - This is a major feature to have since this is also found on new cell phones like the Samsung Galaxy S8, Apple iPhone 8, and Apple iPhone X.

Source: Atari

Edit: May 29, 2018 - Added Pre-order start time.

The Gaming Lounge / Re: Console News: Atari VCS announced
« on: April 24, 2018, 12:23:00 AM »
Another small update. There is an interview from April 19th, 2018 that was just published this last week that outlines a few more details about the Atari VCS console. Information can be found on Eurogamer

Discussion / Re: GU Reporter remodel
« on: April 23, 2018, 11:46:10 PM »
Ok, hopefully everything worked. I've made all the changes (in the order suggested) from that page I linked to. I dunno about the redirect, though

I can confirm that the HTTPS/SSL is now working.

The Gaming Lounge / Re: Console News: Atari VCS announced
« on: March 27, 2018, 09:52:04 PM »
I'd consider getting it if it was no more than $150 and had EVERY Atari game EVER on it!

Then don't bother. The released information already states that the console is out of your price range since the expected price is about $300 at launch. However after a few years, the console may reach the price range you want. The biggest reason for the higher price point is that the console includes a modern processor and graphics chip inside. This means the console will definitely be able to handle 3d graphics.

As far as classic Atari Games are concerned, I believe the console will include many of the games included with the Atari Flashback console.

Now here is a big note, This game console will include third party studio games ( i forgot to mention this before), and there is no definite list of included games in regards to this. However, I do know that the screen shot on the website for the console clearly shows Terraria on the tv screen.

Atari ruined the gaming industry!
They are feeding off your nostalgia.

Atari ruined the gaming industry?! I believe your referring to one of two incidents.

Incident 1: The video game crash of 1983 (wikipedia link) that resulted in a landfill full of unopened atari games. This ultimately caused the Atari, Inc to split. This split lead to two different Atari companies namely the Atari Corporation that handled home consoles and was ultimately purchased by Hasbro Interactive in 1998, and Atari Games which ultimately was handled by Midway Games. This event was mostly caused by an overabundance of games released by third party developers.

Incident 2: The Atari Jaguar failed game console. The failure of this console was mostly caused by game developers having no idea on how to handle multi-core programming ( and honestly, many game developers still have no idea how to properly program multi-threaded programs). Either way, This console had no relation to the founders of the original Atari consoles.

Atari VCS ( aka Ataribox) - This console is being handled by Atari, SA (formerly called Infogrames Entertainment, SA ). This company is the ultimate destination for all of the home video game IP that the original Atari, Inc had.

They used a patreon/indi go go (forget which) to Port a game over to the switch.
They are a money hungry company trying to make a quick buck!
Don't be foolish, don't support them!

I believe your thinking of the start engine crowd funding site. The game that is being ported is Rooler Coaster Tycoon under the Atari Game Partners (link to the crowd funding page) label. The crowd funding page clearly has two questions which are in regards to this...

"Question 1: Why is Atari funding RollerCoaster Tycoon Switch on StartEngine?" - The bulk answer for this is that the crowd funding campaign is a test of viability of using Crowd funding to port/publish other games.

"Question 5: What happens if Atari Game Partners do not reach the investment goal of $1.07 million?" - This clearly states that regardless of the crowd funding, the Switch version of Rooler Coaster Tycoon will be published.

Edit Fixed typo.

The Gaming Lounge / Re: Console News: Atari VCS announced
« on: March 23, 2018, 08:16:05 PM »
That thing is trash!
Most people are BOOing it!
I really hope you don't waste your money on it

I prefer to wait before making a decision on the console about poor press on a console that has not even released yet. Also, I have two main reasons I am looking at getting the console.

Reason 1: The console is a truly open platform where any developer regardless of financial backing can make/develop games for this console.

Reason 2: While actual hardware details are sparse right now, The company has already confirmed that this console uses a Semi-Custom AMD processor. This is a major detail for users since you can expect reasonable performance when you take a look at what the other Console makers did with their Semi-Custom AMD processors/graphics. A quick list of systems using AMD Processors (and graphics) is as follows...

  • Nintendo GameCube (See: Wikipedia) - The graphics on this are listed as ATI/ArtX, but ultimately the result is this can be considered as part of the history of AMD's graphics/console chips.
  • Microsoft Xbox 360 (See: Wikipedia) - Yet another ATI Graphics chip.
  • Nintendo Wii (see: Wikipedia) - This is a heavily modified chip, but still it's an ATI graphics chip.
  • Nintendo Wii U (see: Wikipedia)
  • Sony Playstation 4 (See: Wikipedia) - This uses a 2nd generation AMD Graphics Core Next ( GCN) video card.
  • Sony PlayStation 4 Pro (See: Wikipedia) - This uses a 4th generation AMD Graphics Core Next ( GCN) video card.
  • Microsoft Xbox One (see: Wikipedia) - The graphics core for this is a 2nd Generation AMD GCN
  • Microsoft Xbox One S(see: Wikipedia) - This is a die shrink of the original Xbox One.
  • Microsoft Xbox One X(see: Wikipedia) - This upgrades the graphics processor to a 4th generation AMD GCN.

The Gaming Lounge / Console News: Atari VCS announced
« on: March 21, 2018, 05:43:23 PM »
The new Atari Console is officially announced at the Game Developers Conference 2018 ( aka GDC 2018) due to have the pre-order information appear during April of this year. Some of the confirmed information on the console is as follows:

  • Atari Console in either black or wood grain finish
  • Wireless Atari Style Controller
  • Wireless XBox styled controller
  • Expected Cost between $250 to $300 usd

The confirmed Technical Specifications of the Console are as follows:
  • Performance will be similar to the Nintendo Switch
  • 4K ready
  • Video streaming compatible
  • Integrated wifi (no details on limits of this
  • Linux Powered, and Compatible with nearly any Linux compatible game. ( Aka steam ready)
  • USB Ports on back ( 3 shown in picture)
  • Ethernet Port
  • HDMI Port
  • MicroSD Slot ( No details on size limits)

Links to more information/Details:

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