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Title: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Dandel on May 30, 2018, 11:18:54 AM
The Atari VCS console is up for preorder now. The new information on this is as follows...

Preorder Time frame: Today, May 30th, 2018 to June 30th 2018 (estimated, all the page says is a month is left.).

Pre-order Options:


New Hardware Details: (For full list of information see the Indiegogo campaign (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/atari-vcs-game-stream-connect-like-never-before-computers-pc#/))


Note 1: The hardware specifications are subject to change. I believe most likely the changes will be mainly improvements which will increase performance.

Note 2: If you want to compare this console to the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, It is worth noting that the Atari VCS currently uses third Generation graphics while the other consoles are on second generation graphics.

Edits: June 6, 2018 - Updated Console specifications in regards to Processor and graphics.
June 12, 2018 - The Wood editions of the Atari VCS are no longer available. These ended on June 11th, 2018.
June 15, 2018 - A new release of the Wood edition of the Atari  VCS is now up. It appears the Collectors edition simply had some minor additions like a certificate of authenticity.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on May 30, 2018, 12:55:10 PM
I'm extremely interested in this project, but unfortunately, I won't be able to pre-order. I just threw down most of the spare money I had on an electric longboard for transportation reasons. :/

I love how high the money raised is, already, though. ;D
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Dandel on May 31, 2018, 02:18:12 AM
I'm extremely interested in this project, but unfortunately, I won't be able to pre-order. I just threw down most of the spare money I had on an electric longboard for transportation reasons. :/

I love how high the money raised is, already, though. ;D

Yea, and The Atari VCS crowdfunding campaign accomplished an impressive feat... Crashing the Indiegogo website.



Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on May 31, 2018, 09:26:53 AM
Haha, nice!
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Golden Warrior on May 31, 2018, 06:56:08 PM
Looks good, I'll pre-order this Saturday after I get paid. XD
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on June 01, 2018, 07:12:18 AM
What's also getting a lot of attention for this is their Youtube ads. I was on there for a good bit yesterday, and I saw it like three times. This was obviously driven by my browsing history, but still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcbUBYJoqHw
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Golden Warrior on June 02, 2018, 09:07:51 AM
My pre-order is done now XD.

I'm looking forward to it next year. This looks like it'll be a cool console and even if the games don't go anywhere at least I'll have a useful open system to play with.

I'm going for the wooden one. :)
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on June 03, 2018, 06:31:42 PM
I managed to get enough up for the console only Onyx edition. I hope the controllers won't be super bad when they're available after release, as I'd like to use them with certain types of games. Plus the retro controller is just awesome looking
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Golden Warrior on June 05, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
Agreed, I have high hopes for the controllers, but since it'll support the other PC controllers at least we'll be able to use what we already have just in case.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Dandel on June 06, 2018, 09:40:25 AM
A minor update on specifications. The actual processor used is now in place, and it's a reasonably good processor.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: KingOfHumans on June 07, 2018, 09:47:36 PM
ATARI IS NOW CONFIRMED TO BE A SCAMMED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qho51UscRU
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Dandel on June 08, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
ATARI IS NOW CONFIRMED TO BE A SCAMMED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qho51UscRU

First off... Ya might want to get your Caps lock key checked, you may have broken this key during your fanatical typing. I watched the video you posted on the website, and honestly this guy is probably blowing a lot of smoke. There is a few key issues with the sources the guy has mentioned.


Issue 1: The console is complete scam according to your source... This is a complete farce from a guy who is simply aiming at getting money out of idiots watching his YouTube channel because YouTube pays him after so many views. In reality Atari has stated all along that the console would be released regardless of any Crowdfunding results. This is critical since it means this company is actively paying for all of the Research and Development directly first.

Issue 2: Atari has not released any footage of actual games Running on the Atari VCS... You seem to fail to realize that Atari is still a major Video game publisher. The source you chose on YouTube has also failed to take this into account, and clearly needs to take a few minutes to actually look at the list of Video Game Intellect Property (IP) that is owned by Atari, Inc ( aka Atari, SA ).

Issue 3: The Atari VCS Hardware is a fake... You need to look at the hardware companies that Atari chose to partner with to create the actual gaming Device. All of these companies have some form of experience in creating Video game hardware.


Issue 4: Tempest 4000 (Link to game's website) (http://tempest4000.com/) is not a title for the Atari VCS. You really need to read the footer of the web page for The Tempest 4000 game. The web page clearly states that Atari, Inc owns the Trademark, and is the publisher of this game. The fact that Atari is both the publisher, and owner of the Copyright means that they do not haft to use Llamasoft, LTD to develop the Atari VCS port of this game. Most likely the contracts between Llamasoft, LTD. and Atari, Inc include clauses where the original development files ( This includes source code, sound files, and graphics files to make the game ) are in possession of Atari, Inc. With these files Atari, Inc is able to hire another developer to handle the porting of the game.

Update on Issue 4: It turns out that Atari was planning on having Llamasoft handle porting Tempest 4000 to the Atari VCS but happened to fail to actually coordinatewith the original Developer. This is what lead to the denial made on May 21st, 2018 (link to Llamasoft's forum (http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=87410&start=210#p1681870)). The latest update was Yesterday ( June 8th, 2018) when the developer of Tempest 4000 created a post confirming the Atari VCS port of Tempest 4000 ( link to post (http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=1682233#p1682233)) will be handled by Llamasoft. Also, The developer says the port will be done properly (link to post (http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=1682242#p1682242)) since there is plenty of time.

Edits:
June 8, 2018 - Fix typos.
June 9, 2018 - Major update on Tempest 4000. It turns out that Llamasoft is making the Atari VCS port of Tempest 4000.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on June 08, 2018, 10:28:53 AM
ONE claim is not going to make something true, KoH. Especially when you take into consideration the scope of advertisement that Atari has already taken in this project. They have OFFICIAL advertisements ON YOUTUBE. Do you really think they would do that if it were just hype?
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Golden Warrior on June 08, 2018, 07:19:49 PM
And this is why getting news from Youtube is a double-edged sword. On one hand there are a few youtubers out there that actually do a decent job of researching things calmly and objectively and can give a rational presentation of their findings. That said, there are also a lot of youtubers that jump on the latest bandwagon with the most common opinion of a subject and it quickly becomes a competition of "Come watch me! I'll tell you why the latest thing sucks!" "No! No! No! Come to me, I know more about why the latest thing sucks!"

The later is rampant on Youtube and does not qualify as actual journalism, but a lot of those channels have gotten so good at dressing it up that it's pretty easy to fall for it. In addition, it's not unheard of for some of the better channels to occasionally jump on the bandwagon to get some extra views from time to time and that ruins their credibility. To this day, I'm not aware of any gaming channel on Youtube that has not fallen into jumping on the bandwagon for extra views at least once.

It does not mean we shouldn't believe any of them since a lot of them do get it right, but doesn't mean we should stop scrutinizing them either (I would put the mass media in the same boat but that's another topic for another time).

When KoH posted the link, it was an attempt to use a video from a guy who appears to have posted multiple videos already bashing the VCS and was already on a hunt for finding anything he could use to bash it again as evidence. This is not actual evidence of a scam. It amounts to "See! I told you so! This other hater of all things VCS said so, it must be true!" This is rumor and Dandel has already expertly dispelled it.

KoH, if you want to make the claim that the the VCS is a scam, please give us an objective rational argument backed up by evidence. I'm genuinely curious as to why you are so dead set against it and what the VCS has done to set you off to hate it so much that you won't give it a chance (if that's not the case I apologize, but that's the impression I'm getting).
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: KingOfHumans on June 09, 2018, 12:00:08 PM
Too many consoles, and I seen other companies make garbage consoles and abandoned it quickly.
Honestly I could care less about the atari, it's just a quick cash grab.

Not sure why you guys prefer this over the big 3 (even though microsoft is a joke atm).. but your money.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on June 09, 2018, 05:39:46 PM
For one thing, it's not just another console. It can be set up with a linux distro and made to do more than just play games from Atari's distribution means and stream stuff from the streaming apps. I'm also under the impression that it can be set up to use as a Steam box, which increases its usefulness even further.

You keep going back to "it's just a quick cash grab." Prove it. Atari started the console era. Not Nintendo, not Sega, not Sony, and DEFINITELY not Microsoft. What do the "Big 2" have that makes them a better choice? Besides platform specific games (which is a thing I hate, and have hated for twenty years)? Oh, that's right. Credibility. They're a proven concept. There's a long list of things you probably have in your home that weren't a proven concept when they were released. The Switch was one of them.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Golden Warrior on June 10, 2018, 01:11:21 PM
For me, there's no such thing as "too many consoles". Most consoles fail (the big 3 are the exception not the rule, if you take into account every console ever produced), but sometimes making the attempt can be for the betterment of others since mistakes can be learned from.

As for it being a cash grab, I can kind of see why people think that with pre-orders being done on Indiegogo, but Atari's already funded it for release. I don't see any harm in getting some of that spent revenue back early so they can port games, add stuff, or maybe just to deal with manufacturing costs so they can release more VCS consoles. Making consoles is hard and expensive as many failed attempts can attest.

Not sure why you guys prefer this over the big 3 (even though microsoft is a joke atm).. but your money.

Big 4 if you include PC. I bring up PC because unlike the other consoles, the VCS is actually just a PC stuffed into a small box and comes with controllers instead of a keyboard to be used as a console. The reason why I'm excited for it is because it's an open system from a well known brand, Atari. PCs are only truly open if they're running an open Linux based OS (not every Linux OS can be considered truly open) or some other opensource OS (EX: FreeBSD), but in doing so you loose out on a lot of the games. It's gotten better but SquareEnix, and others still don't port a lot of games to Linux. I want to see Linux gaming take center stage someday, even in console form. Unlike the SteamOS boxes, the VCS feels different. Like it may have a chance to perform well enough to shake things up a bit and bring more developers to making/porting games to Linux.

For me, gaming moving to an open platform would be the largest advancement since Nintendo and Sega resurrected the gaming world back in the 80s. While Windows and other platforms continue to close themselves off to the end user and take more control away from them, moving all my gaming to an open platform where I know I'm in control again it's pretty important to me.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on June 10, 2018, 06:25:16 PM
There's also "I like swords" ;p
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Dandel on June 15, 2018, 08:23:53 PM
Updated my first post to include information about the Atari VCS Tribute console which is simply the Atari VCS with wood panel on front and lacking the certificate of authenticity.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on July 12, 2018, 03:00:21 PM
Just a quick note. The preorder is over, but you can still purchase the Atari VCS and controller perks, they'll just be delivered later (assumably). I'll be taking advantage of this to get my hands on the controllers, myself.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: KingOfHumans on November 27, 2018, 10:33:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L79aqMgCi60

Don't support that console trash. They already scammed people who bought smart watches. High odds they'll scam you with the Atari console in one way or another.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on November 27, 2018, 11:15:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L79aqMgCi60

Don't support that console trash. They already scammed people who bought smart watches. High odds they'll scam you with the Atari console in one way or another.

As I said on Discord when you mentioned this on there, that Smartwatch scam was not from Atari. It is clearly marked as being started by someone else, operating as FMTwo Game Inc. Furthermore, the "Atari version" was listed as one of THREE versions. Check the campaign yourself here (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gameband/gameband-the-first-smartwatch-for-gamers).

Please fact check your videos before you make claims of things like this, folks.
Title: Re: Atari VCS up for Preorder.
Post by: Rowan on October 10, 2019, 10:25:03 AM
Been a while since this got updated. The VCS is nearing release for backers, currently slated for shipment in December, and pre-orders for everyone else are available at Walmart, GameStop, and the Atari VCS website (https://atarivcs.com/).

Specs have changed, as well.
Partnering with AMD, a new APU has been developed for use with the VCS, as it will have (upgradable!) twin SODIMM DDR4 4GB RAM sticks (8GB total), and a slot for an M2 solid state hard drive to upgrade the internal memory. There are two USB 3.1 ports on the back, and two USB ports on the front (version not disclosed in the dev blog (https://medium.com/@atarivcs/atari-vcs-plastics-thermals-and-internals-f72e61897b81) I read).

On the games side, there is a partnership with Antstream for access to a multitude of games, and third party games have not been released, as of yet.

One major thing that I noticed was a comment somewhere that the backers will be helping with the playtesting phase. We will be receiving pre-production firmware to test out and report on, to see if there are any bugs. As a slightly experienced coder, I'm kinda looking forward to that. ;)