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Title: "I expect it to become a third pillar, next to the Gamecube and Gameboy."
Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 08, 2004, 08:55:28 PM
I don't know how abreast you all are of this particular development, but I'll summarize:

Nintendo plans on revealing some sort of new hardware sometime around E3 (AROUND E3... yeah, right). Supposedly this hardware will coexist with both the GCN and the GBA successors. No other details have been released.

However, some new tidbits jsut popped up...

"A recent interview with Nintendo head Satoru Iwata published by a Japanese newspaper has revealed more information on the company's 2004 mystery machine, which was first hinted at in November of last year.

Iwata said that the product will "enable fun and movement not seen before." He added: "I expect it to become a third pillar, next to GameCube and Game Boy."
The Nintendo leader confirmed that the product would be unveiled at the Electronics Entertainment Expo 2004, which begins this May in Los Angeles.

Nintendo has remained very hush-hush regarding the specifics of the device, but company representatives have previously confirmed that it would not be a full-blown to successor to any existing hardware."

http://cube.ign.com/articles/460/460563p1.html
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Post by: Dark Dude on January 08, 2004, 09:40:08 PM
Maybe it's a hand-held GCN player.
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 08, 2004, 10:56:18 PM
I doubt it. It's supposed to be some revolutionary thing, something that will become as important to Nintendo as their consoles and handhelds... if Iwata is to be belieed, at least.

A handheld GCN player is hardly that amazing.

Plus, whatever it is, it is suposed to coexist wit the successors of the GCN and the GBA< not the GCN and the GBA themselves.
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Post by: Cyclone on January 09, 2004, 12:40:48 AM
Something involving virtual reality?

Cyclone
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Post by: Serge on January 09, 2004, 12:49:38 AM
I was thining VR myself. The realm of possibilities isn't infinite... I hope it's cheap though ^_^
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Post by: Thenolos on January 09, 2004, 01:02:36 AM
Well... after nintendo got burned majorly with the virtual boy... it would take real guts to try to do anything along those lines again.. even with the better technology...
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Post by: Cloral on January 09, 2004, 02:11:14 AM
Yeah, its probably either something like that, or some other sort of thing that plays differently than either a console or handheld. If you look at his quote, it almost sounds like some sort of thing you play physically:

"enable fun and movement not seen before"

So maybe its a better developed vr system. After all, they should have the technology now to make it pretty decent (i.e. full color).
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Post by: The Adventurer on January 11, 2004, 08:02:47 PM
maybe it's a giant, purple dildo with a picture of mario on it.


I'm interested to see what Nintendo comes up with.
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Post by: Yumakami on January 11, 2004, 10:03:23 PM
Hmm...yeah, I'm thinking of the 'movement' phrase as well. Maybe it's like those video cams that you hook onto the TV, so you are on screen, and you can interact with the stuff coming toward the center screen.

The TV Cams.

Those just came out a little while ago, and I hope Nintendo does something like that. That'd be so cool: Virtual Reality without hurting your eyes!
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Post by: Cyclone on January 11, 2004, 11:31:38 PM
Actually, PS2 has something like that.

"Billy's on T.V.!  Come on, Billy's on T.V.!"

:dpsilly:

Would be interesting, nonetheless.

Cyclone
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Post by: Zeo on January 12, 2004, 03:35:04 AM
TA, watch it......

I think it's a newer version of the karate platform thingie they had for the NES...........
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 12, 2004, 12:16:35 PM
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Originally posted by The Adventurer
maybe it's a giant, purple dildo with a picture of mario on it.


I'm interested to see what Nintendo comes up with.


I am fairly sure that they already have a few of those circulating in Japan. ;)
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Post by: Ruler26 on January 12, 2004, 03:05:54 PM
Hoo ha ha, I'd say that there's an overwhelming indication that this'll be R.O.B 2!  The incredible sequel!

I mean, obviously R.O.B was awesomely revolutionary, so all Nintendo has to do is top their original design and come out with a game slightly better than Gyromite!  Maybe they'll give R.O.B a third arm or something...
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Post by: Cyclone on January 12, 2004, 10:12:43 PM
I highly doubt that...I hated ROB.

Cyclone
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Post by: Ruler26 on January 12, 2004, 11:13:47 PM
Yeah, but it was such a lovable little guy...I mean, it had such zest and moved back and forth with such glee, and...hmmm, yeah, actually R.O.B did kind of suck...bwa ha ha.
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Post by: Matt on January 13, 2004, 10:37:18 PM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/462/462640p1.html

Looks like 'virtual reality thing' might be on the right track (and I though Nintendo was beyond stupid mistakes?). Of course it could still be something extremely different.
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Post by: Deuce on January 13, 2004, 10:58:58 PM
VB2


Virtual Boy 2!
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Post by: Legendary MMSX on January 14, 2004, 09:38:43 AM
Good!  I was hoping someone would find a new way to play games without having to goto the arcade.  At the arcade I always played that Boxing one were you hold the gloves, actually punch and have to move and stuff.  It is tight.

*Wonders Mario Kart virtual reality style*
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Post by: rcx21000 on January 14, 2004, 04:18:01 PM
Mabye just a pair of glasses with RF capability so they can talk to GBA2/GC2 and show stuff on the screen? And a controller thats also RF. Would be cool if there were games specificly for it, and it used the processing power from all avalible thigies around. Like this:

rcx is playing "This and That" on glasses with GBA2 in pocket
rcx walks into a room with a GC2, and the game's res is automaticly upped
rcx walks out, and the game's res is downed
rcx is in range of someone else playing GBA2, and its spare power is used to make the res slightly higher

:)
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Post by: Cyclone on January 15, 2004, 08:07:40 AM
Hmm...the Gamecube Microphone Box. :laugh:

Of course, it lets you move your MOUTH in ways never seen before...you utter the word "Die", and your opponent loses immediately. :dpwink:

Cyclone
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Post by: Z The Drunk on January 15, 2004, 09:03:44 AM
That would be cool.
I would play against golden eagle then ;)


But i keep thinking its some sort of Virtual reality. That make syour senses more entegrated with the game.
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Post by: Zeo on January 15, 2004, 09:53:56 PM
A VR system will be good.. a real one.. but somehow I doubt Nintendo have the market for it.. it'd be costly to create AND to purchase.
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Post by: Joefalco on January 15, 2004, 10:11:56 PM
The Nintendo holodeck...finally we have come upon a golden age.

:P
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Post by: Joefalco on January 21, 2004, 12:03:04 AM
Sorry for the double-post, but Nintendo has just released news what this "third pillar" is!  Say hello to the Nintendo DS!

Nintendo Announces Dual-Screened Portable Game System (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=NTDOY:US&sid=aYdNQpxT26vI)

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High-Tech Writers / Business Editors E3Expo 2004 REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 20, 2004

Nintendo DS features two separate 3-inch TFT LCD display panels, separate processors, and semiconductor memory of up to 1 Gigabit. It's scheduled to launch worldwide before the end of 2004.

From information made available today, players can look forward to being able to manage their game progress from two different perspectives, enhancing both the speed and strategy of the challenge. For example in a soccer game, users can view the whole game on one screen while simultaneously focusing on an individual soccer player's tackle or goal on the other screen.

Players will no longer be forced to interrupt game play to shift perspective, such as moving from a wide shot to a close up, or alternating between a character's ongoing battle and a map of the environment. Nintendo DS makes it possible to perform the tasks in real time by simply glancing from one screen to the other.
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Post by: Phantom on January 21, 2004, 02:48:42 PM
Maybe it will allow for two different images screened on different sides of the TV, allowing for true 3D. This has not been done before, but I don't know why.
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Post by: Joefalco on January 21, 2004, 03:23:41 PM
It's a portable system.  It won't be hooked up to a TV
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Post by: Dark Dude on January 21, 2004, 09:18:32 PM
Very good. This should help solve the "I can't move the camera!" problems in 3D games.
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 21, 2004, 09:34:18 PM
No no no, you people are too optimistic ;)


I think this is a load of utter crap. How is this supposed to coexist with the successors to the GC AND the GBA? According to NIntendo, this is NOT the successor to the GBA. If they're going to have yet ANOTHER handheld after this, then Nintendo will be competing with itself, which is bad for both consumers and Nintendo itself.

And where are the pictures? If they don't have stuff to show us and convince us Nintendo hasn't lost it's collective minds, they shouldn't have revealed anything.

How is this suppsoed to allow "fun and movement never seen before", like Iwata said it would?

This has left me confused, dissapointed, and looking worriedly at my wallet.


I do not see how this is innovative at all. It has 2 screens. So what? If they're going to be next to each other, a single splitscscreen would have served just as well. If they are NOT going to be next to each other, then we'll be faced with the frustrating task of having to look back and forth between screens.
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Post by: __ on January 21, 2004, 09:50:44 PM
Yeah, maybe I'm missing something, but this really doesn't seem that special to me. Also, it wouldn't hurt Nintendo to compete with itself, as they get the money no matter which of the two handhelds someone buys.
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 21, 2004, 09:53:37 PM
No, because while Nintendo is busy trying to split it's development teams between the two consoles, the PSP will come along and annihilate them both.

Competing with itself will hurt Nintendo.
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Post by: Joefalco on January 21, 2004, 10:26:47 PM
Wait until E3 to pass judgement is my thinking here.  I have no clue whatsoever how they are going to implement this but it's still to early to call heads or tails on this.  Who knows?  Maybe they'll add a feature that can be added for backward compatibility.
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Post by: Aegis Runestone on January 21, 2004, 10:39:38 PM
Quote from: Joefalco
Wait until E3 to pass judgement is my thinking here. I have no clue whatsoever how they are going to implement this but it's still to early to call heads or tails on this. Who knows? Maybe they'll add a feature that can be added for backward compatibility.

 I totally agree with you, Joe. It's way too early to tell whether this new console is good or not. Only time will tell and hey, it might blow the PSP out of the water. In any case, there isn't much, IMO, that other console companies can do to destory Nintendo, they really got video games going. Atari started it, but Nintendo put the wheel in full gear though.
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Post by: Golden Warrior on January 22, 2004, 12:00:37 AM
Right now I'm not impressed.  To me it looks like Nintendo has still lost its way because this looks like it's overcomplicating things.  I'm all for a new kind of interface, but I don't want one that would make it more complicated to play the game.  To me that's just stupid.  Games are supposed to be a fun and/or relaxing thing to do.  By doing too much with the interface I think it would take away from the games rather than help them progress and evolve.
 
 Like lord-of-shadow said, the same thing could be done on any TV with a split screen.
 
 I'm going to keep my mind open until what E3 says about it, but until then I can only imagine the damage this will do to Nintendo.
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 22, 2004, 09:13:04 AM
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It's way too early to tell whether this new console is good or not.


Nintendo will have TWO handhelds going at once. This, and the successor to the GBA. Business-wise, that's a bad decision no matter how innovative or good it is.

There will be more revealed about it, more then they have told us... the press release itself said so. But that is hardly enough to inspire confidence.
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Post by: Ness on January 22, 2004, 05:24:50 PM
I found this at this site: http://pocket.ign.com/articles/473/473999p1.html
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Nintendo Mystery Product Revealed
New dual-screened portable will be focus of E3 2004.
 
January 20, 2004 - For months Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has been offering Japanese newspapers vague comments about a new mystery hardware that the company would launch in 2004. Nintendo of America today pulled back the curtains on the top-secret device and it looks to be good news for Nintendo fans worldwide.

The company's mystery machine is in fact a dual-screened portable game device that is entirely separate from both the GameCube and the Game Boy Advance. It will be marketed completely free of its sister hardware. It's called Nintendo DS for Nintendo Dual-Screen.
Nintendo DS features two connected 3-inch TFT LCD display panels, and two separate processors. The device features an Arm9 main processor and an Arm7 sub processor.

The portable will not use GameCube optical disc or Game Boy Advance cartridge based media. Instead, it will play software on semiconductor memory of up to 1 Gigabit, according to the manufacturer.

Nintendo explains the importance of the dual-screen setup: "Players can look forward to being able to manage their game progress from two different perspectives, enhancing both the speed and strategy of the challenge. For example in a soccer game, users can view the whole game on one screen while simultaneously focusing on an individual soccer player's tackle or goal on the other screen.

"Players will no longer be forced to interrupt game play to shift perspective, such as moving from a wide shot to a close up, or alternating between a character's ongoing battle and a map of the environment. Nintendo DS makes it possible to perform the tasks in real time by simply glancing from one screen to the other."

Today's revelation is just the beginning, according to the company. The bulk of information on the machine will be unveiled at May's Electronics Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles.

"We have developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely different concept from existing game devices in order to provide players with a unique entertainment experience for the 21st century," explained Satoru Iwata, Nintendo president.

The announcement, seemingly out of nowhere, likely comes in preparation for Nintendo's upcoming financial report. Also, developers have indicated that they will soon receive development hardware for the new system and with that Nintendo wouldn't be able to keep it a secret for very much longer.

There are no photographs of the device available. However, IGN's own Matt Casamassina has created a conceptual drawing (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/nintendodsannounced.jpg) of what the Nintendo DS may look like. Very intriguing, for sure. We know one person (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/fourheadsjayam1.jpg) who will enjoy the dual screens!

The Nintendo DS will be on-hand at E3 2004 in fully playable form, according to the company. It will ship in the last half of 2004.


now click here (http://forums.thegaminguniverse.com/reputation.php?p=162117) and say something nice.  :smile:
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Post by: Marrshu on January 22, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
"We know one person who will enjoy the dual screens! "
LMAO!

Anyways. I think that this a side product to the GBA... meaning its just to make a quick buck untill the next GBA.
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Post by: System_Failure on January 22, 2004, 09:01:53 PM
I honestly don't know what to think! It does sound interesting to say the least, and because i know they with release a Zelda on it I know I will have to buy one, but I REALLY hope it is better then it sounds!
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Post by: Bites on January 23, 2004, 01:09:35 AM
Pfeh, Nintendo will crash and burn soon, their last 2 consoles were a disaster (well didn't become overly popular) and if they don't hurry and start designing and developing a new system besides a handheld well then, they'll lose up again to the XBox2 and the PS3.
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Post by: Aegis Runestone on January 23, 2004, 06:20:06 AM
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Pfeh, Nintendo will crash and burn soon, their last 2 consoles were a disaster (well didn't become overly popular) and if they don't hurry and start designing and developing a new system besides a handheld well then, they'll lose up again to the XBox2 and the PS3.


Uh.... last I saw, GameCube was beating out Xbox... <.<
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Post by: Legendary MMSX on January 23, 2004, 07:05:04 AM
and the advance is still going strong, and it is completely upgradable.  They have a TV tuner for the GBA already :dplick:.  Nintendo should really just focus on upgrading the GBA.

Crash in burn, doubt it.  X-box will crash in burn, PS will still lead, and nintendo will be right smack in the middle.

Plus you can't judge something you haven't seen in action yet.  So lets wait until the day, as I don't think the two screens will be used just for that.  Thats probably for a specific game nintendo is making for it or something.
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Post by: Aegis Runestone on January 23, 2004, 09:19:22 AM
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and the advance is still going strong, and it is completely upgradable. They have a TV tuner for the GBA already :dplick:. Nintendo should really just focus on upgrading the GBA.
 
Crash in burn, doubt it. X-box will crash in burn, PS will still lead, and nintendo will be right smack in the middle.
 
Plus you can't judge something you haven't seen in action yet. So lets wait until the day, as I don't think the two screens will be used just for that. Thats probably for a specific game nintendo is making for it or something.

I agree. For one thing, the Xbox is bombing in Japan anyway, the GCN(in fact, it's the most popular in Japan I believe, the reason is, of course, is there are lots of anime games that use very nice cel-shading for the GCN only in Japan) and the PS2 have strength in BOTH the US and Japan, Xbox only has the US to back it up. If anything is failing in the Market, it's the Xbox.
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Post by: System_Failure on January 23, 2004, 03:30:49 PM
and i've sworn to never buy an Xbox. I actually know a lot of people who have. GBA is great and GCN is great(love mine) so anything that they come out with will be desent at the least but lets keep our fingers crossed ;)
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 23, 2004, 05:32:16 PM
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Uh.... last I saw, GameCube was beating out Xbox... <.<


Lately, the GC has been outselling the Xbox on a week-to-week basis, but the Xbox still has more overall sales.
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Post by: Dark Dude on January 23, 2004, 10:35:02 PM
Don't be pessimistic. Nintendo DS is gonna rock, because GameCube rocks and GBA rocks. And DS isn't competition with GBA. That's like saying "GameCube competes with GBA". I'm all for this idea, because it has so many possibilities. The two screens are just a little bigger than the GBA screen and are vertical (as far as I know) so it's not like you'll have to look far to see the other screen.
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Post by: Truth Spirit Aura on January 24, 2004, 12:51:16 AM
I wonder how many of you know about the Nintendo iQue.

It's selling big over in China. The system is basically a portable N64:
You just need a television and a power outlet. The entire system fits into your hand, and uses flash memory. One can download several games to the flash memory for a nominal fee, and carry it around quite easily.
Given what seems to be our retro-gaming trend these days (it's as hip as bell-bottom pants, baby!), could the iQue be making a Stateside move, as well?
it's sold pretty good on Lik-Sang.com already, and we Americans currently don't have a way to cheaply obtain newer games for it.
This can easily coexist with the GCN and GBA, and allow for portable gaming, as well. Perhaps someone will show off their intelligent streak, and not only find a way to have a lightweight power pack for it, but also add a screen for viewing it, thus eliminating the non-mobile tethers that are AV cables and AC power.

Or, could the unthinkable strike twice?
If you know your nHistory, you'll remember where Sony and Nintendo had partnered up to work on a game system. This system was supposed to combine a CD-based unit, with cartridge capabilities (source: "Game Over" - a book of the Big N's history; And didn't you ever wonder why it took them SO LONG to move away from cartridges?), but something happened between Sony and Nintendo that shattered this.

Given how it seems Sega has become buddy-buddy with The Big N (see: F-Zero GX), could a positive repeat of history happen? Perhaps Nintendo and Sega could release a combined retro system that may play NES, SNES, Genesis, and Saturn games, and no one would suspect that.
This isn't likely, though. More of an "Aura would LOVE this, but heh," situation.
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 24, 2004, 11:24:35 AM
Your point, Truth Spirit Aura?


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And DS isn't competition with GBA. That's like saying "GameCube competes with GBA"


I never said it would compete with the GBA. I said it would compete with the GBA's successor. And it will.

The GC and GBA occupy different markets... console, handheld. The GBA's successor, on the other hand, WILL occupy the same market as the DS.

ON top of that, what is the point of two handhelds at once?

And on top of THAT, Nintendo will need to split it's resources between the two machines. Not only development teams, advertising, and manufacturing costs, but 3rd-party games as well. Having two handhelds at once will hurt both of them. ANd for no real purpose as far as I can see.
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Post by: Legendary MMSX on January 24, 2004, 02:10:24 PM
Um....whoever said nintendo was going to make a follow up to GBA anytime soon?  It could be 6 years from now before we ever see a new GBA succesor.  They probably will do it at the near end of DS's carrer.
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Post by: Goteth on January 25, 2004, 12:41:10 AM
I'm not going to say much on this matter. We haven't seen it in action yet, nor have we seen any games for it, hence knowing what in the world it looks like...but the way gaming is going towards these days, I wouldn't be shocked if it fell. It is pretty interesting though. I do have some faith in it...:shrugani:
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Post by: Bofia on January 25, 2004, 01:11:29 AM
i beleive the new system will suck however,
people/idiots will still buy it
:/ lol
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Post by: Goteth on January 25, 2004, 01:55:33 AM
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i beleive the new system will suck however,
people/idiots will still buy it
:/ lol


We respect opinions, but please try not to be vulgar about it. That and how does one know if it will suck? We haven't even seen it in action yet and there isn't much info on it yet. :shrugani:
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 25, 2004, 01:37:35 PM
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Um....whoever said nintendo was going to make a follow up to GBA anytime soon?  It could be 6 years from now before we ever see a new GBA succesor.  They probably will do it at the near end of DS's carrer.


If that was the case, then they wouldn't have said this wasn't the GBA's successor, because... it WOULD be the GBA's successor.
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Post by: Dark Dude on January 25, 2004, 01:40:16 PM
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I never said it would compete with the GBA. I said it would compete with the GBA's successor. And it will.
Same things. They're still not in the same category.
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The GC and GBA occupy different markets... console, handheld. The GBA's successor, on the other hand, WILL occupy the same market as the DS.
Calling the Nintendo DS a handheld is like calling the Virtual Boy a handheld. It's a new type of system. Don't oversimplify.
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ON top of that, what is the point of two handhelds at once?
Again, new type of system. It's not two handhelds. The DS is it's OWN category.
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And on top of THAT, Nintendo will need to split it's resources between the two machines. Not only development teams, advertising, and manufacturing costs, but 3rd-party games as well. Having two handhelds at once will hurt both of them. ANd for no real purpose as far as I can see.
You're acting like you're some sort of expert in this field, when the truth is you're not. You don't know how it's going to, you don't know what the system is, so stop talking like you know everything.
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Post by: Ness on January 25, 2004, 01:57:32 PM
The DS is a handheld, and fewer people will buy a GBA because of it.
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Post by: Dark Dude on January 25, 2004, 02:09:51 PM
People should have already have bought a GBA by now. And GBA and DS will have different games. If people wanna play the GBA games, they'll still have to buy a GBA.
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Post by: lord-of-shadow on January 25, 2004, 04:22:32 PM
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Calling the Nintendo DS a handheld is like calling the Virtual Boy a handheld. It's a new type of system. Don't oversimplify.


Based on the curent information, the DS is a handheld with two screens. Why would it be anything like the Virtual Boy example you gave?

Unless the DS has some radical new technology, it WILL be in the same market as the GBA's successor. There is no denying that, so why do you try?


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You're acting like you're some sort of expert in this field, when the truth is you're not. You don't know how it's going to, you don't know what the system is, so stop talking like you know everything.


Hypocrite ;)
Title: "I expect it to become a third pillar, next to the Gamecube and Gameboy."
Post by: System_Failure on January 25, 2004, 05:14:48 PM
now now boys, it's not a big deal. no need to get fisty ;)
Title: "I expect it to become a third pillar, next to the Gamecube and Gameboy."
Post by: Goteth on January 25, 2004, 08:21:35 PM
No need to get fired up about this guys. I'm keeping this thread on close watch now.  :dpdevious
Title: "I expect it to become a third pillar, next to the Gamecube and Gameboy."
Post by: Serge on January 25, 2004, 08:48:45 PM
As am I.

This is a difference of opinion that may never be solved, so it's better to drop the subject and move on.
Title: "I expect it to become a third pillar, next to the Gamecube and Gameboy."
Post by: Dark Dude on January 25, 2004, 09:03:58 PM
I'm sorry, but he's upsetting me with his talk about how he knows everything and exactly what's going to happen when he barely knows anything about the system. I'm being optimistic, as should any gamer.
Title: "I expect it to become a third pillar, next to the Gamecube and Gameboy."
Post by: Joefalco on January 26, 2004, 01:01:03 PM
Ok, I got some more news about the DS.  At GameInformer.com, there is an interview between GI and Nintendo of America?s Director of Public Relations Beth Llewelyn.

Here is the link (http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200401/N04.0121.1808.42530.htm)

One of the main things I found interesting was that Nintendo has not announced whether the DS will be backward-compatible with all of Nintendo's other GameBoy games.  If it is, this would make that part of GBA's successor useless though in truth, you could work the same reasoning with the GameBoy Player and Super GameBoy, yet I've heard of no news reports in the past that such add-ons seriously took away from handheld sales.

Also, in the interview, the screens will be bigger than the one screen used in the GBA.  The screens will be in the vertical position.

There are other questions asked and answered in the interview but I thought those I've typed seem the most important to me.

One more news announcement concerning the DS:
Third Parties already pledging support for the DS (http://www.polygonmag.com/news/index.php?id=1582)

The only ones listed are Konami and Namco.  E3 will reveal more info so it's best to wait IMO.